steveweast Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 How are you going to deal with collection ? Most (in fact I don't know of any) Oregon tidepools are located preserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Actually there is quite a few non protected tidepools, I was talking to our local marine bio - ranger and she was telling me how she was dissapointed that more are not protected. Im sure if you talked to the right person they would point you in the right places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly guy Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 You need a tank???? Ive got a few of them laying around no one seems interested in buying.......... let me know..........Im sure SOMEONE from over the hill will be in my area and can pick it up for you...... Ive got an 80 gallon glass in decent shape that is all yours if you need it. It isnt drilled but could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Actually for this... I would donate the transportation if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I was over at Joel's school to drop off a GSP frag to him and checked out his tank. He's got a nice setup and the tank is coming along nicely. Joel has THE LARGEST YELLOW WATCHMAN GOBY I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! Its HUGE!! I couldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Joel, thats not going to be part of the Biology experiment for the 8th graders is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Actually for this... I would donate the transportation if he wants it. Tidal Sculpin, if you want Flyguys tank and you're coming to PDX area, let me know ASAP to work out delivery/pu. My Bro-inlaw lives in Bend and could bring it over the hill to me on Turkey Day (if Flyguy could drop it off into his truck). If not heading this way before your need it, I'm sure someone else makes the trip your way on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I have work carriers that go all the time. Eugene to bend and back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Wow, an 80 donated??? Awesome!! Leaks or not I'll be happy to work with it! Bend is a drive for me and with snow on its way it could be exciting getting it home in my little 88 corolla wagon. Miles even offered to help me with some drilling. If you are serious please message me and we can talk about getting it to my school. I have a 45 breeder that could become a sump or a q-tine tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Like I said I can grab the tank for you. 24th. But... I would encourage you to go see his tanks if you can make time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly guy Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Yes im serious.......its sitting next to my house in the back yard killing grass......lol. its in decent shape...no signifigant scratches and its watertight. Just needs a few holes drilled and its good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly guy Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Im out of town 22-25th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 If it's in the backyard, just leave the gate unlocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 awww thats my old tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Check out this oregon state incredible site. I think I can get some good tips from here. I found it on an RC thread in advanced topics. There are some great species ideas here. Especially the inverts. The blob sculpin made me crack up! http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/projects/msap/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 what wattage of mh where you thinking you would need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 I figure 2 X 250 mh maximum. The only anemones that appear to be photosynthetic are the green anemones. I am not sure if I would even need that much if I tried to "trap" the anemones in a bowl shaped rock near the top of the tide pool. Most anemones appear to be very hungry for fatty foods from what I have read so far in the NW. I think I'll be needing a strong sump skimmer for this setup. Got any diy ideas or links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 cold water doesnt need light if that what your talking about. Look at what Steve has been talking about with his tank. They are hogs though. do a DIY skimmer they are everywhere, standard pump with fishline to break up air into a containment tube and top catch for skinmate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Green anemones do need light, I'm just not sure how much. What I know about other photsynthetic anemones in tropical tanks is that they need mh for sure. Coldwater hetertroph anemones appear to need lots of mysid shrimp or other fatty foods for nutrition and little light to see them. I do want to keep the heat down so mh does not seem necessary. The rc thread by steveweast shared an incredible coldwater tank. He used t5 tek lights but no photosynthetic anemones were in his tank. It also appears certain species will need cool temps but many in the tidal zone can survive pretty well at ambient room temps. One question is, can they thrive year round. Will a chiller really be necessary? These are yet to be answered for me from what I have read so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Like I said Steve is a member here. you should get in touch with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 DOH! I just figured out that he has even posted on this thread. Boy, do I have a lot to learn. I guess I'll leave the green ones alone. I'll have to contact him about his setup. I am in the process of obtaining a scientific take permit to use for educational purposes. They want to know what I am going to collect so I put the green anemones down as one of the species. I just wanted to be sure and take good care of the organisms. I am also trying to contact OSU extension sea grant coordinators at Hatfield Marine Center for info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Joel, If the tank from Fly doesn't work out for ya - lemme know, we can always *find* enough material to make a tank for a cause such as this. I also have some old dry LR that you can use as base rock if you need/want, wouldn't exactly be native but... I'd also be happy to supply some plumbing supplies you will need provided we have them on the shelf, bulkheads, tees, ells, etc. There are various other items on hand as well that I would like to make available should you need them for this project, eg., Ocean Clear canister filter, various electrical supplies, timers, etc. Many parts are new and many were parts of my old tanks that I could use in the future but if there is a present need for a good cause... I also have a very good friend who works for ODFW (former curator at OR Coast Aquarium) that might know where you may collect, I could ask if you wish. please do let me know if I can help, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I meet with a Park ranger that tours the reef areas down by north bend and is going to school for marine bio, she told me most places are not protected. I wish I had her contact info, we had a good time chatting about my tank and all the stuff we seen on the trip to the local reefs with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 If I were you, I'd take James up on his generous offer. I'd have him build a touch tank out of 1" thick acrylic.....with dimensions of something like....48"or 60" X 24" X 12" or 18". A shallow tank would provide ample tactile experiences for your kids. I'd have him build an overflow at one end....and a small sump for below the tank to hold a skimmer, carbon, etc. I could get you rock from Puget Sound along with colorful anemones, starfish, urchins, cucumbers, hermits....and maybe a few small fish like gunnels. It could be a spectactular display if done right. The lighting is irrelevant....so, maybe a small T5 fixture....but.....nothing too elaborate or big to interfere with the ability to "touch" everything. Viewing from above and through the sides will be very interesting for your kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Yep, Steve's size suggestion of 13-14" height was what I was thinking for a "touch tank". 48-60 x 24 x 13-14" would be easy and a great size for this IMHO. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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