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Okay, I got antsy and went searching....:p




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Shinola may refer to:


* Shinola, a brand of shoe polish

* Shinola (Energy Orchard album), an album by early 1990s Irish band Energy Orchard

* Shinola (John Scofield album), a 1991 live album by jazz musician John Scofield

* Shinola, Vol. 1, a 2005 album by Ween

* Shynola, a group of visual artists from the UK

* Shinola (band), an indie rock band from Chapel Hill, North Carolina that existed from 1994-1997



Of these I figured it had to be the first so I went further...


Doesn't know **** from Shinola




Possessing poor judgment or knowledge.




doesn't know **** from SinolaShinola was a brand of shoe polish previously manufactured in the USA. The alliteration and the fact that the two commodities in the phrase could possibly be confused is the derivation. The distinction is well made; only one of them would be good to apply to your shoes and only particularly dim people could be expected to muddle them up. Of course, outside America, most people don't know Shinola from anything at all, as they've never heard of it. Even in America it would probably not be widely remembered but for this phrase.




The 'ola' suffix is popular in the USA as part of trade names, e.g. Crayola, Granola etc. This leads to the pronunciation of Shinola as shine + ola. That spoils the alliteration a little as it would work better as shin + ola.


This phrase is typical of the barrack room vulgarity of WWII, which is where it originated. Other "doesn't know" phrases, also mostly from the military are, "doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground" (or elbow, or a hot rock, or third base), "doesn't know enough to pee downwind", "doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ***". The tone is lifted a little by the English conductor Sir Henry Wood who expressed a similar opinion with "he doesn't know his brass from his woodwind".


I had to know!!! It was driving me crazy(nutty)

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