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I'd love this, but my tank has only been up for a couple months, so still some waiting to do for me .  I'm only a few minutes from you though, so it would have been great

Hmm, looks like no update for my phone yet... 

 

 

Hmm, I'm on Android.  It looks like there is an update this morning, perhaps something changed...  The update is not showing on my phone yet though.

 

I use a password manager, so I'm certain that it's the correct password. 😁

Broken again, as of yesterday afternoon/evening.  Same symptoms.

They already said it wouldn't be that type of comparison, but a write up on the concepts of each.  

Why? Why would they make something so nice and have it limited to the thickness of your walls?

Bummer, was kinda looking forward to using it. Oh well, I guess I really have no use for it now... [emoji26]

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As others have mentioned, this is designed for smaller tanks, and you probably wouldn't be that happy with it in your tank anyhow.

This is a little different than the magnets in your pumps. Those just hold the pump in place, on the mp10 it has to hold it in place and spin the prop through the tank wall.

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Why? Why would they make something so nice and have it limited to the thickness of your walls?

Bummer, was kinda looking forward to using it. Oh well, I guess I really have no use for it now... [emoji26]

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I have an extra mp40 after my tank transfer if you're looking. I will be looking for an mp10 in the next month or so too, if you want to work something out.

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I think Jorge hit the nail on the head with this one... I see this turning into a "our turf scrubbers are the best, buy ours now"

Seems doubtful, based on the current rate of progress here...

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For whatever reason those neotherm heaters require a lot more power per gallon than the jagers though.  300W neotherm is rated for 75g max (and is basically 2 150W heaters put together). 300W Jager is rated for 264g max.  Assuming these are both accurate, you would need 3 neotherms to even come close, which would run you $420 instead of $30...

They seem nice, but hard to justify.

[mention=16179]pdxmonkeyboy[/mention], how long have you been using those?  Pretty cool and super cheap if they're reliable!

They do require a controller in addition to the heater, which adds to the cost a bit.

Still nice not to have glass tubes in the tank, especially as the only barrier between the electricity and the water.

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Move starts tomorrow morning.  Tanks are being moved saturday.  Phew, getting nervous!

I have to bow out of helping you. Hurt my back earlier this week, and can't really lift anything...

Good luck! It will be worth it in the end.

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6 minutes ago, badxgillen said:

Well Zone, I can get you a couple frags as tank warming presents just for fun, if you need more I am sure we can work something out. And if Optimus doesn't take care of your Oxide fix I can for sure.

And Prime, you do realize those are just different types of capriconus under good lighting. Nothing special , but classics still, I can get you some frags no problem.

 

 I appreciate any tank donations for sure (except xenia/GSP)!

On 10/8/2017 at 9:50 AM, Optimusprime3605 said:

 

 

I like this one quite a bit.  How much?

I hear crickets... Guessing no one wants to trade with me[emoji45]

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I'd love to trade, but my tank is new and bare, so I don't really have anything to offer...


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Just now, Emerald525 said:

Sorry to hear that.  You could help Karen with admissions or raffles. When do you think you would be at the show?

Whenever.  I am usually up early.

I'd love to help out, but I hurt my back a couple days ago and still healing.  If you have something that could be done with limited range of motion and no real lifting, I could help.

13 minutes ago, kyleinpdx said:

I'd like to know as well, depending on where it is I may be interested in the RODI unit!

Says Keizer on his profile page...

36 minutes ago, Robert Iuliano said:

Does something like this happen enough where if I built a detector many people would have interest in it? Something that either shut down the power to the tank, or turns on a warning light, or send warn via some other means? Could simply have a beeper that goes off until you fix the problem. The electricity shouldn't bother the tank creatures too bad if you get to it quickly.

If you had a detector that would hook into an APEX breakout box, I think that would satisfy many people (just 2 bare wires, needs to close the circuit when tripped). 

APEX really does have allot going for them.  #gottadayjobalready
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I am surprised they didn't just use a linux distro though... allot more freedom.  But the decision to pick a platform and leverage it?  To me, that's 100% legit...
 
 

Are you sure they don't? It seems doubtful that they literally wrote an OS for their controllers.

Would be nice if it was a little more open though.

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1 minute ago, albertareef said:

Caveat - I think the "devil in the details" here might be how the handoff/integration between any custom code/functions and the general OS is handled.  Andriod evolves quickly (generally a good thing) and is driven by use cases that are probably far outside this particular application so how stable will those touch points be and will the team be able to keep on top of that? (I think this might underly the original commentators unease although it is broached as a security issue there vs. basic functionality).  Anyway, might be a moot point if the controller itself isn't subjected to frequent versioning (Android) updates (likely controlled by Vertex?).  If they can successful address this potential issue that yeah, it all makes too much sense not to try.  Forgive me if I worded this badly but hopefully the idea gets across.

I think this part is not a huge deal.  There are still people using android phones that are 2+ versions behind.  It's easy to target those platforms, and the tools will keep you within the frameworks that work on that version.  There would be no huge reason to constantly upgrade.

There is a pretty good effort going on to build a raspberry pi based controller.  I think the biggest issue is that designing probes to be accurate and not interfere with each other is somewhat complicated and expensive.  This is the biggest thing that APEX has going for it, IMO.  

I do wish I could use much more complex logic on the apex, but I can generally do whatever I need to do.  The real downside is that you can only use pretty rudimentary 3rd party hardware (no analog signal, just an on/off from the breakout box).

24 minutes ago, albertareef said:

Open-source software is kept secure through large oversight of a community. I just don't see that happening in this small nitch. 

 

24 minutes ago, albertareef said:

You can argue that the Reef Angel is a model for this type of platform, but it has a way smaller user base than the most popular controllers, and it's driven by a passionate DIY community.

 

Weird logic...