Jlpete Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Hi All, I built a water change station at home and the valves are pain to manage. I am thinking about using PLC controller with 24v valves. This way at a push of a button it change processes. This is the controller I am looking at. https://www.mrostop.com/al2-14mr-d-mitsubishi-programmable-logic-controller-plc.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwmq3kBRB_EiwAJkNDp-BcKxBeIdYNRM230My1lpG1JI7k2CEFOOaQ2disBELoZbCdDm1Y-xoCFNUQAvD_BwE I am thinking the following. all stop button Mix/cycle salt water Fill mix tank from ro tank Pull water up hose Push water to tank hose Anyone with experience with PLC controllers or programming them? Yes I looked at apex but not enough outlets in 24v or I would have to use all of my power outlets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I like hi-tech but the issue is what if something goes wrong or controller gives up......will you still have manuall control? I prefer manual control on moving parts as electronics always seem to fail/. Sounds cool however 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 PLCs are an interesting option. In the DIY you see allot more arduino with relay shields. You must have some PLC background? Looks like a cool project! I am a very long time software engineer myself. Did a decade at HP when deskjets were booming and people still made them in the USA... This stuff is always interesting to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance164 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 plc programming isnt too bad takes some time but with those basic on off commands it should be pretty simple. I also think you could do this with a breakout box and apex though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Vance164 said: plc programming isnt too bad takes some time but with those basic on off commands it should be pretty simple. I also think you could do this with a breakout box and apex though? The breakout box on Apex is read-only, so it can't directly control valves or other outputs. As @Jlpete stated in the original post, the trick is having enough 24v outputs on the Apex to actually control the valves is the biggest issue. It would be nice if Neptune offered a 24v multi-outlet module to connect multiple valves, solenoids, and other devices in one compact module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlpete Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 hours ago, SuncrestReef said: The breakout box on Apex is read-only, so it can't directly control valves or other outputs. As @Jlpete stated in the original post, the trick is having enough 24v outputs on the Apex to actually control the valves is the biggest issue. It would be nice if Neptune offered a 24v multi-outlet module to connect multiple valves, solenoids, and other devices in one compact module. I was wishing for breakout box too when I started my research. I write SQL and regex on daily basis then some .net. Most of the control in PLC programming language seems pretty straight forward compared to the writing code I have done in the past. I thought about doing a series of relays and diodes but I kept running into too many issues in the design. I needed away to control the 120v pump in the process too. Another I ended up needing to add was timers in to the switching process as well to give water a chance to flow into the pump if the line was empty. Ugh too complicated. That is how I ended up looking at PLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlpete Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 I know of only one person who programs in PLC. My friends brother uses it in HVAC systems and in house for building HVAC. He works for a HVAC manufacturer/supplier for commercial applications in giant sky scrapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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