Mitrillion Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I have a frag of froot loops and fire and ice that won't open up all the way?! Any thoughts? I've tryed high low? Now they are at medium lvl thoughts guys!? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack-the-reefer Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Zoas can be finicky little turds. I have a few colonies that will close up for a week at a time, then open back up like nothing happened. Fruit loops are a little more touchy than most. Mine looked great one day, then didn't open one morning and melted pretty quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hope mine don't melt! I just wasn't sure if I missed something or any tips to get them to look better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish2 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I might suggest not moving them for a little while. Give them some time to acclimate to the conditions (light, flow...) Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombertech Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Water quality and light color will effect both of those. How do they look in the morning with just the blue channel on? How are you doing on water changes? How stable is your tank? Any brown algae on the stalks of the zoas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombertech Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 All "deep water" zoas, do a lot better with minimal light above 500nm. They grow at seafoam paly speed if the light is correct. Colony growth slows WAY down after 30ish heads. Fruit Loops, hornets, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Also they can be prone to infection. Sometimes I wilk try dipping with one of the common coral dips or fishflex which is just cephalexin a common antibiotic has worked well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 I just ujust the lighting to my liking! I turn lights on at 8 and off by 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 12 hour cycle seems like a long time for softies Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I run mine from 8:30 - 11 pm.. mine do fine.. Even at night with 1 royal blue for a moon light the zoas at the top never close.. idk if its good but they are growing new headsBut I do majority of blues.. 30-40 blues and 10 whites.. Some days I give them a break and have only strong blues all day with no white.. they like the blueMy Fruit loops are pretty low and kinda in shade.. and they didnt open for 3-4 days for me.. if they are partially open then its a good sign they are adjusting.. try lower but in direct light and not full shade.. dont let them get buried in sand though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 I have all my zoas on a frag rack little bit lower then half! Should I shade the ones not doing so hot?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Maybe more light if not much is hitting the frag rack.. But if your other fragged Zoas are doing fine.. Then the best thing to do is leave it.. And blow it off with a pipette every day.. Maybe it will shed its skin, but don't let it build up a brownish stuff.. It will open again or melt in 2 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Maybe more light if not much is hitting the frag rack.. But if your other fragged Zoas are doing fine.. Then the best thing to do is leave it.. And blow it off with a pipette every day.. Maybe it will shed its skin, but don't let it build up a brownish stuff.. It will open again or melt in 2 daysok sounds good! Like at max a few will open and then they will close. Is a turky baster work? Not to get off topic but one of my sps got sand on it and I didn't blow it off in time and now I can't get it off. Is this the same as the zoas? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) sps may absorb and grow over the sand.. just my zoas dont like their matte buried in sand as it may cause it to melt away..In a normal reef the random surges of flow will help peel off the brown old skin but in a tank you must blast it away.. once it peels away it will be like a snake shedding its skin to be shiny and new. If they are opening some, just give them time to open up all the way.. Dont constantly move them so they have to readjust, but maybe do a day or two of all blues with no white and they will start to open more.. mine played that game for more than a week(And it doesn't hurt to do a water change if its been a while.. and change that filter floss) Edited March 10, 2015 by Sasquatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 sps may absorb and grow over the sand.. just my zoas dont like their matte buried in sand as it may cause it to melt away.. In a normal reef the random surges of flow will help peel off the brown old skin but in a tank you must blast it away.. once it peels away it will be like a snake shedding its skin to be shiny and new. If they are opening some, just give them time to open up all the way.. Dont constantly move them so they have to readjust, but maybe do a day or two of all blues with no white and they will start to open more.. mine played that game for more than a week (And it doesn't hurt to do a water change if its been a while.. and change that filter floss) so should I move the ones not going hot to the sand bed or leave where they are at?! I will send a pic of where rack is located at, when i get home Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 so should I move the ones not going hot to the sand bed or leave where they are at?! I will send a pic of where rack is located at, when i get home Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk leave them alone if they're peaking open.. as long as your other zoas on the frag rack are not reaching to much to the light it should be fine.. just run all blues if possible to let the zoas adjust more.. its your choice really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 leave them alone if they're peaking open.. as long as your other zoas on the frag rack are not reaching to much to the light it should be fine.. just run all blues if possible to let the zoas adjust more.. its your choice really ok! Will the sps be bothered by the light? Should I lower the light output? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 they are starting to open which is a good sign! All my corals are responding good to the blues! Thanks guys Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 whats above the Fire and Ice?Looks like they will be just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitrillion Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 whats above the Fire and Ice? Looks like they will be just fine its the one on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 its the one on the right yea. and above that one? got one band of green. Is that the God of Armor your calling them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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