reefnjunkie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Did you make them by buyin all parts seperate?? Or doing the rapidled' date=' stevesleds etc thing?[/quote'] Sorry I never saw this post, all my builds have came from reefledlights, they are the only ones I found that carried the heatsinkUSA in the 8.5" wide, rapids were all like 4" or somethin, great for smaller tanks but my build was a little larger so I needed the wider HS. I spent quite a bit of time searching many places that sold components but reefledlights were they only ones I found that had all the components I needed without having to go to multiple sites. Sorry for missing the Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sorry I never saw this post, all my builds have came from reefledlights, they are the only ones I found that carried the heatsinkUSA in the 8.5" wide, rapids were all like 4" or somethin, great for smaller tanks but my build was a little larger so I needed the wider HS. I spent quite a bit of time searching many places that sold components but reefledlights were they only ones I found that had all the components I needed without having to go to multiple sites. Sorry for missing the Q No problem rnj and thanks again for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peligro Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Steve- ok man so I did some research and honestly, I'm liking the a350w. Those kessil lights are amazing, and the reason I'm liking the a350w is because if I decide to upgrade tanks it will do great, its completely dimmable for white and blue. It would be manually but seems worth it. Thanks for peaking my interest in kessil Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 No problem dude they r the ****! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Personally I wouldn't buy a kessil because you can easily DIY one for about $100. They are just a basic LED chip, which you can buy a 100w LED hybrid blue/white chip for about $70 on ebay, a dimmable driver for about $30, then all you need is a little heat sink. I know some of them you can use two drivers and control the whites and blues seperatley. If your not into DIY I suppose Kessil is your only choice, but most of the reviews on the A150 were saying the PAR readings were pretty horrible. With a rapidled or diy kit you can add different colors too, which really makes things pop more than just blue and white can. Also there was an article floating around saying that most LED fixtures are lacking red, which they found to be an important element in growth/color or something. Not exactly sure on the details but I picked a fixture with Red in it for that reason. Thats my 2 cents :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 The kessil has UV and infrared? And word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Pendants also are a lot better than any LED. Do more research on not just kessil but the pendants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 This is what I was reading on different colors and spectral distribution: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/aafeature I've read about pendants, the Orphek's seem to be the better choice but cost a lot more. I haven't found anything that says kessil has UV and infrared... Plus this article really turned me off from pendants: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/1/aafeature the par values are just not there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Also most users with biocubes are using 2...not just 1. I would much rather buy a Sol if i'm gonna spend anywhere into the $400+ range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Watch the kessil breakdown it's in YouTube he says everything about it.. It's pretty insane and marine depot gots a pretty good one on it as well. Also there is an article in coral mag with Sanjay talking high on LEDs and pendants mostly the ecotech canon and kessil a150w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Kessils are also $260? Not 400 and no there is a wet pets one with two but I've seen a lot of Biocubes with kessils just one. That have pretty good growth also the 32w on the kessil is equivalent in par with a 150w MH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 That's technically saying a 150mh wouldn't have that great of PAR on a biocube. I can understand the kessils being bad on a tank with standard or long dimensions. But it fans out pretty well. But also I've done a lot of research and the SOL doesnt have better PAR then the kessil a150w at least what I've seen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Read your post wrong I thought you were saying 1 kessil is $400+ but you indicated 2. But yeah I'm still probably going with the kessil as I want to see how it works haven't had a pendant yet. If I don't like it.. Well I dont like it. Lol but I've heard a lot more positive stuff from credible ppl than negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 And jw who are most biocube users? I wanna see all these ppl with 2 cause I've seen only 1 biocube with 2 kessils. Personally. But eh that's why I asked everyone's opinion on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Also most users with biocubes are using 2...not just 1. I would much rather buy a Sol if i'm gonna spend anywhere into the $400+ range Yeah I'm actually gonna look into these reef breeders I truly didn't kno about these I mean they are cheaper for my tank as well. Do they come with vevrything? Like to set up? Or do you have to buy your own like wire and clips to hang up the fixture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I was just reading around and the people with 29 gal biocubes were using two or the ones using a single always had to suppliment with stunners or something to get the spread. Personally, with the biocubes, I like them with the hood on, so I wouldn't want to have it with no hood and a pendant hanging way above it to get the spread. You really should look at noobtosalt (Jessie's) before buying, the rapidled kit is sweet. Or as you said in my thread, check out the reefbreeders units lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah I don't like the rapid LED as much as the reef breeders. But yeah the colors on your tank are pretty nice what fixture you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's the 96w one. All their fixtures are made up with similar mixes of colors so should be able to achieve good color mix. Since a biocube isn't as deep as mine you'd probably want the one with the 120 deg optics instead of the 90 like mine. They are even cheaper too, so thats nice lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah, I'm liking these. Just cause they are dimmable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate213 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 The Kessil A350 is a better deal than (2 )A150s. I have an A350w and it covers a 40B pretty well at only 8-9 inches over the water. If I raised it up, it would have even better coverage. I'm sure it would provide more than enough light for a Biocube. I agree that the DIY are a good way to save some cash, but I haven't seen one yet that had the fit and finish of the Kessil. The Kessils look very nice and clean mounted over a tank. If you are going to hide it in a hood, then save the money and make a custom setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 One a150w? Cause I'm sure the 350 will cover a biocube easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yeah I don't like the rapid LED as much as the reef breeders. But yeah the colors on your tank are pretty nice what fixture you get? Dumb question but who's tank have you seen that you didn't like? Unless you see it in person I would suggest not talking down about it. Taking pictures with LED tanks isn't as easy as you would think. Do what you want but I'm curious as to who's tank you saw that didn't look good. Sure I'm a bit biased but would love to talk to the person that doesn't have them setup properly as I'm sure that's what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peligro Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Honestly I like the a350w And feel it would do great over my nano cube. And think it could produce great results. But feel that buying the kessil is an easier choice then moding a hood. But not cheaper by far. I've seen a kessil a350w and loved it. But honestly from more research I've done and ppl I've talked to. Diy seems to be the best option for a lot of ppl. Price, and ability to target specific colors, and being able to adjust in a many amount of spectrums. The kessil you can't. Only dimming ability. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Dumb question but who's tank have you seen that you didn't like? Unless you see it in person I would suggest not talking down about it. Taking pictures with LED tanks isn't as easy as you would think. Do what you want but I'm curious as to who's tank you saw that didn't look good. Sure I'm a bit biased but would love to talk to the person that doesn't have them setup properly as I'm sure that's what it is. This is why I said you should go see some peoples tanks using different kits. I wasn't sure I liked the look of NoobtoSalt's in pictures...but then I saw it in person and instantly knew I wanted a similar setup. All cameras tweak out bad when you take pictures of most bright lights, definately need to see in person to appreciate. Your more than welcome to come check my fixture out, i'm sure Jessie would show you his too, definately check em out before you buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHash-fish20 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Dumb question but who's tank have you seen that you didn't like? Unless you see it in person I would suggest not talking down about it. Taking pictures with LED tanks isn't as easy as you would think. Do what you want but I'm curious as to who's tank you saw that didn't look good. Sure I'm a bit biased but would love to talk to the person that doesn't have them setup properly as I'm sure that's what it is. I don't like them as much as they are not dimmable... And if I put them in my biocube hood what do I do when I upgrade? The reef breeders are just more manageable. Don't get all mad about it cause I don't like the lights as much? (scratch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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