Ron Popeil Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 awesome, thanks for the tip. so far they dont seem to mind each other at all. would you think territorial problems might begin around postmetamorphosis ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illcssd Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 It should begin after metamorphosis jordan, at least a week or two after. If not more, They definitly wont have aggression premetamorphosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Jordan, that kicked butt man. Totally cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 and the parents are spawning again right now....some five days earlier than they were supposed to. fabulous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 my apartment is running out of electrical outlets. on the evening of day four, the fry really are developing well. their eyes are developing more structure. i can discern the parts of their tail. i can see that they are filling their little bellies on rotifers. i did my first water change today, maybe a 1/3 of a gallon of fresh saltwater, preheated and set for a salinity of 1.020. i used an expired plastic gift card to scrape the bottom layer of sediment off and simultaneously used a vinyl tube to siphon out the scraped pilings. i got some preliminary pictures tonight, terrible of course, but they are a tease until this weekend when my photographer friend arrives in town. thanks for the continued support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Most excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzypop Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 nice!!! lots of work good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Awesome job Jordan! This is incredible what you are doing. Later Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 day 9. there are six left. still eating rotifers. lots of them. if i had to guess, id say at least one of them has gone through metamorphosis, or is close. they all appear to have a shimmery blue spine. their eyes have distinct features now. but they are still tiny, and do not resemble clownfish. in the next day or so, i will attempt frozen cyclopeeze. either monday or tuesday night my next nest will hatch. i hope to be far more successful with this nest than the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 here is one of the smaller, mid developed fry. this is the only good picture ive been able to get, thanks to mr rothwell. im really fascinating by how the fry all have distinct blue vertebrae and shimmery blue stomachs. their transparent tail sections are slightly yellow hued. i tried some frozen cyclopeeze yesterday, thawed and squirted in with a small eye dropper. no interest. a bit too large i think. this is the last nest, the day of hatching on monday: i expected the nest to hatch monday night, and infact a few did. as of yesterday, there were no new fry, just the original five or so. by that afternoon, i began lowering the salinity to 1.020 to begin the process of feeding those that survived, but made sure to keep a light over the tank and then turn it off at night just in case more hatched during the second night. this morning, there are several hundred fry all swimming about! i just completed the first water change in the day old fry tank. i didnt understand why anyone would need to make that siphon/filter thing described in wilkersons book...until today. there are just so many tiny tiny fry. i did my best to remove all of the dead fry and eggs, naturally sucking up a bunch of living ones in the process. i used an eye dropper to replace them as best i could. after that, i set in my 53 micron sieve container and just siphoned water directly out of that. i added rotifers and some isochrysis to start them off. as for the 11 day old fry, the six that remain, im going to add a sponge filter ive been culturing for the past month. i added some two day old brine shrimp today. i dont notice the fish specifically targeting them yet. two of the six are growing much more rapidly. they favor the current of the bubbles and the surface for feeding. after this, im going to skip a few nests. if anyone wants to take a stab at some fry raising, let me know. i should have some more eggs in another week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palani Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hey Jordan, I'll try some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 jordan just wanted to chime in and send my congrats and hopeful wishes. Sure sounds time consuming and tedious. Let me know if there is any supplies you need "sponsored" to help. I chime in rarely, but have been watching progress regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 This is so cool...Major props to you!!!! (clap) I wish I had time to do stuff like this...but I hope you can bring them all the way to full size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palani Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I think Jordan needs some Selcon for feeding his rotifers which are fed to the fry. HINT, HINT, Joel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 there is speculation that too much air on the nest is what causes such high mortalities. so ill be trying to rig up water flow instead of an air flow on the nest the night of the hatch. its now day 16. my six little clowns got their stripes over the weekend. very exciting. im absolutely thrilled by their recent appearance, reminds me what i am raising. im working with them and cyclopeeze and they are almost getting the point. some will eat certain morsels, and then ignore others, and some of the clowns just havent understood the cyclopeeze are food. but any day now i think they will subsist on them completely until i can get them onto pulverized flake. using the sponge filter in the tank has been a blessing, as the water quality has stabilized and doesnt require as frequent or as large of water changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 day 24. the little babies are almost completely fed off flake foods now. i add baby brine just to make sure they stay full every three days or so. of the five babies i have from this nest, there is one that is visibly dominant and chasing the others frequently. i finally got some decent pictures. in the next week or two i hope to add them to a 10 gallon tank with some liverock and a small bubble tip anemone. top down shot the clearest shot i was able to get the little hungry group as for the second batch, i dont know if i just got lazy or complacent, but im down to just three. regardless, another nest is just a few more days from hatching. i think ill have enough time to really dedicate myself to it. thanks again to joel from waves for all the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewie Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Awesome! Cute lil guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DChemist Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 They're adorable. It's crazy seeing something that small but colored and shaped like an adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 they are so cute, how many did you end up raising this far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drock59 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 4 or 5 i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 yeah, 5 that are 25 days old, and unfortunately only about three of the 14 day olds. dont really know what happened there with that second nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 how fast do they grow? they looks pretty good sized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Popeil Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 well its taken a month to get 1/4 of an inch or so. very slow growing. they were eating solely rotifers for just over two weeks. now that theyre eating flakes though...their growth is noticeably apparent on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Where you feeding live rotifers or the roti-feast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 1/4 in a month sounds good to me, are you sure the anemone wont eat them though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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