tidalsculpin Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 I just found this book after reading a few olds posts on the fins.actwin site. It is by the same author who wrote those magazine articles above. He keeps jellies too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 http://www.biblio.com/books/87448246.html- Forgot the link(booboo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 That link is just the biblio.com search engine. Was it The Temperate Reef Aquarium by David Wrobel? I have that book around here somewhere. I'll let you know when I find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Yes, I meant The Temperate Reef. Definitely not on loan at the Eugene Public Library either. Biblio had it for sale. BTW: I have done initial rockscaping and added about 70% of the water. I'll probably have the tank truly running by next Wednesday. I ordered a new pump panworld 100px-x from ebay. Should be here on Tuesday. I have a buyer for the loud pcx100 too. I'll add additional flow with seios on the front of the tank. I'll determine the size of the seios after I have the panworld running. I'll post pics of all this on Wednesday or Thursday this week. Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Well, my skimmer bulkhead still leaks. The custodian called to have me clean up the mess at 8:00 at night.(nono) I tried a new bulkhead gasket and it seemed tight. I'll test the sump again tomorrow. Getting a bit frustrated with the leaks. Hello Guppy Maintenance Jay will be swinging by tomorrow to help out. Rock scaping done. 3 mysis cube in the tank to get things going. Powerhead is running things in display at this point to keep a little circulation going. No heater is on. Will cycling be slower at 62? vs say 70? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 if you heat it up it should help to cycle faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 So, I need like a 300 watt heater, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I'd cycle the tank at 55 F with NH4CL.....I'm not convinced that the same bacterial strains that function at reef temps are the same that operate at cold temps....could be wrong here.....but, I wasn't willing to take that chance. My tank cylcled in about 5 weeks at 55 F. I used a lot of NH4CL so that when I added the local live rock, there would be little die off. Besides....the local stuff will look so much more natural than dry rock. Ryan and I went diving yesterday to take advantage of the good visability....picked up a few pieces of rock with kelp attached. My seahorses needed a few more hitching posts. Water temp was 45 F. The local rock can be quite atrractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Steve is that red and blue in the middle of the first picture a Catalina Goby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Steve is that red and blue in the middle of the first picture a Catalina Goby? Yes...there are a few in each tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Each tank? How many temperate tanks are you running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 nice catch, I want a cold tank just so I can have one or two and breed... too bad they are hard to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Each tank? How many temperate tanks are you running. I have two tanks that have a common sump. The tanks just take up some spare room in my main tank's equipment closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 In your picture, the tank on the right is the one that I did not know about. Both look great!! Very nice job!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 but your main tank's equipment room is probably the size of most of our spare bedrooms :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 steveweast does have a good point about bacteria, maybe the cold water bacteria wont like the heat if you do that to cycle it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 but your main tank's equipment room is probably the size of most of our spare bedrooms :-p It's only about 7 x 9 feet. (whistle) :p (laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbrownies Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 okay the size of my bathroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 what kind of light do you have over that tank on the right steve? Is that a tek? if so haw many bulbs is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 There are 6 T5's on the small tank and 4 T5's on the bigger tank. I run all 6 on the smaller tank for the kelp plants....but, I only run 2 of the 4 bulbs on the bigger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 steveweast does have a good point about bacteria' date=' maybe the cold water bacteria wont like the heat if you do that to cycle it[/quote'] I have read some on the subject. Many species of bacteria will adapt from warmer to cooler temperatures. Here is quote from Fish and Invertebrate Culture - Water Management in Closed Systems(Second Edition) by Stephen Spotte. "Temperature Many species of bacteria can survive large changes in temperature, although their activities may be affected temporarily. A period of adjustment, called a time lag is often evident if the temperature has been altered abruptly. Time lags are seen when the temperature is lowered suddenly; increases in temperature ordinarily speed up biochemical activities and therefore may not produce a time lag. Srna and Baggaley (1975) studied the kinetics of nitrification in seawater aquariums. A rise of 4° C increased ammonia and nitrite oxidation by 50% and 12% respectively, compared with calculated values. Lowering the temperature 1°C slowed down the oxidation rate by 30% and a 1.5°C decrease reduced the rate of nitrite oxidation by 8%, compared to calculated values." I would cycle the tank at room temperature, then slowly lower the temperature over a week's time. As organisms are added to your aquarium, other species of bacteria will be gradually introduced. I also agree with Steve Weast about having all local rock, with attached flora and fauna in the display tank. The dry calcareous dead baserock or feather rock that I suggested would be best kept in the sump to supplement denitrification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 There are 6 T5's on the small tank and 4 T5's on the bigger tank. I run all 6 on the smaller tank for the kelp plants....but' date=' I only run 2 of the 4 bulbs on the bigger tank.[/quote'] Steve - What combination of T5's are you using? The macroalgae, along with everything else in your tanks, look great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidalsculpin Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 So steve- when you say alot of ammonium chloride what dose do you prefer per gallon? Like 50 grams? 100 grams? Do you dose all at once? Over the five weeks? Over the first week to get a large spike? My total volume is around 170 gallons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 So steve- when you say alot of ammonium chloride what dose do you prefer per gallon? Like 50 grams? 100 grams? Do you dose all at once? Over the five weeks? Over the first week to get a large spike? My total volume is around 170 gallons. Hmmmm.....Well, that was over two years ago....but, I was adding the ammonia chloride every few days throughout the cycle period to build up the bacteria populations. If I remember right, I started out with a teaspoon full with each dosage....then finished with a tablespoon. Near the end, I'd see no NH4 or NO2 indications on my test kits with each addition. I just felt it was better to prepare the tank this way to mimimize the die off and ammonia spike when I added live rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Steve - What combination of T5's are you using? The macroalgae' date=' along with everything else in your tanks, look great![/quote'] Mostly 6500K daylight T5's with an actinic thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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