gwalkerss Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 First of all.. Hello to everyone!!!! I have just started my First Saltwater tank about two months ago. I am loving it so far!!! I have a 55g tank with basic lighting. I am looking to up grade my lights already. I want to have more of a reef tank, so i will need the right lighting!! I do not have much money as of right now, i need some thing that would work for at least a while. looking to spend around 150.00, less if possible. I have only the basic lights that the tank came with new. It came with 2 21" hoods with just regular florcent lights. Please le me know what you think would be best for me and if you have any lights that you would like to sell me. Also if you have any other things that you think that i should know, please let me know!! I do plan on attending the x-mas party!! Thanks for your time! Geoff Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 First of all.. Hello to everyone!!!! I have just started my First Saltwater tank about two months ago. I am loving it so far!!! I have a 55g tank with basic lighting. I am looking to up grade my lights already. I want to have more of a reef tank, so i will need the right lighting!! I do not have much money as of right now, i need some thing that would work for at least a while. looking to spend around 150.00, less if possible. I have only the basic lights that the tank came with new. It came with 2 21" hoods with just regular florcent lights. Please le me know what you think would be best for me and if you have any lights that you would like to sell me. Also if you have any other things that you think that i should know, please let me know!! I do plan on attending the x-mas party!! Thanks for your time! Geoff Walker Well lighting is going to depend on what you plan on keeping in your tank... Fish Softies LPS SPS Clams This will better help us understand what your tank will require for lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalkerss Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 What I want in my tank! I would like a little of everything some Fish but mostly Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams. I would like it to be more of a reef tank than a fish tank!! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanz Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I guess you'll have to shell out the big bucks and get MH if you're gonna keep clams. Check the classifieds often, you might score! Welcome to the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 You could get away with t-5's for all of that...what are the dimensions of the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePremiumAquarium Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 If you are going to get into halides, I have an extra dual ballast pfo 400 watt mogal system. Its what most of us in the hobby keeping sps and clams use, but for a 55 gallon tank I would probably go with either 175 watts or 250 watts. You would need to place the 400 watt lamps slightly higher than normal if you want to use those. Send me a pm if you are interested. Good luck and welcome to reefing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 You could get away with t-5's for all of that...what are the dimensions of the tank? 55s are usually 48"L x 12"W x 20"D or real close to that. T-%s would work for you but I would go with MHs......'cuz if you are like the majority of reefers I know you will be upgrading and you can take the MHs with you without having to worry about whether or not they will work with the next tank. With that said 175w Mhs would be plenty of light for the 55....but I go straight for the 250w ones. just my $.02 WELCOME!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 All these MH ppl just don't know what they are missing. (hitme) (naner) With T5s you have much more flexibility. You can make the tank whatever color you want. Like it more blue? No problem! You want the greens to REALLY pop? No problem! You will have no problems with heat, the bulbs last 3X as long, your electricty bill is less, the initial cost is similar, and you will still be able to keep the same corals, yes even clams. The only thing i miss about MH versus T5 is the shimmer the MH gives. THATS IT! Wanna upgrade later? No problem!! Most tanks up to 120gal are 4ft long just like yours. So to answer your question, i would look at a 4-6 bulb T5 TEK fixture, or the new Aquatinics T5 fixtures. Since you have a limited budget, i'd start out looking for a used TEK fixture on RC, craigslist, reeffrontiers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 ^^^^^^ Whatever Miles (nutty) :p (laugh) (whistle) (clap) ^^^^^^^^^^ You know you want MHs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazerbeam Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 lighting hey look on the reef tank or pnwmas i am selling a 175 triple ballast sorry no cords and 3 venture 13000 k bulbs mike it is some stuff for sale mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Geoff, I was the guy you were talking to at the fish store. I am changing my lighting to t-5's. If you go with metal halides, I would do a 2x250 watt pulse start or electronic ballast. You will be able to use them if, (and when), you upgrade. But, in all my research, I have found that t-5's are really the best option. Nice to see you found the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Geoff, I was the guy you were talking to at the fish store. I am changing my lighting to t-5's. If you go with metal halides, I would do a 2x250 watt pulse start or electronic ballast. You will be able to use them if, (and when), you upgrade. But, in all my research, I have found that t-5's are really the best option. Nice to see you found the site. Yeah t-5's are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 If you get MHs, then make sure to up your health ins to cover a visit to the burn unit!!! :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 But which gives you a better overall tan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Depends on what you can get a good deal on, MH if you want, I would go T-5 on a smaller tank, its just simpler, less electricity, and you can do more light lux without needing chiller. If you can find good deal on MH do it though just dont go to big or your going to need chiller. A 4 light T-5 setup on the low side or 6 on way overkill may have to hide some softies to keep from frying them. If MH I would go with 250 watter (2) and raise them up to prevent overheating in summer. My tank had 250 MH (3) and I gutted it to T-5 and love it, only part I used to miss is the shimmer and I don't miss it anymore. You will be impressed with how efficient a T-5 bulb is compaired to a MH bulb with a decent reflector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 not to hijack the thread but if the tank is about 20" front to back and about 22" deep is a 4 bulb tek enough? i only have room for a 24" fixture in width and they only make a 4 bulb in the 24" it looks like. is this enough light or do I gotta go with a retro kit and squeeze in 6 bulbs? mostly a softy tank for now, wife likes stuff that moves with current....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Depends on a whole slew of things like bulb combination. If it went on a (20") tank as he said he had not 22" and did 2 11k or otherwisw known as blue plus and 2 actinic plus (these are mixed 40%-60% actinic and white). That would work for most stuff, you would have to have SPS really high in tank, 6 bulb setup preffered. I have a 24" deep tank with 8 bulb and melt softies on the sandbed, you have to hide them in caves till they aclimate and slowly move them out over a few months. Most will adapt, the will bleech and you will need to re-shade if you move them out to fast. Honestly there is no straight faced answer, every tank is different, reflectors are different, height you mount from water makes a difference, bulb brand, ballast, depth, bulb combo, there is so many configurations, I would go 6 bulb and do experimentation on your tank. Acclimate slowly if the specimens are used to lower light. I can take SPS from a MH setup and drop right into my tank where the rest are and have no issues. You just have to find what works. Honesly there is a pretty wide band that your corals will accept within reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Mike i know you want to come over to the T5 side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanz Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I got t-5 and I love it! I'm not sure my t-5s are powerful enough for clams though. It's the 24" 4 bulb tek fixture. Everything seems to love the light...hmmm maybe I'll pick up a clam soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Derasa would be a great choice for that light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 what size of tank is it on vanz? That is the exact fixture im looking at getting. how high off the water does the light sit? I was also looking at the nova extreme fixture from current but it has one big reflector instead of individual. but if its all softies in my tank and no sps then it should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 ^^^^^^ Whatever Miles (nutty) :p (laugh) (whistle) (clap) ^^^^^^^^^^ You know you want MHs. yeah... since I quit using MH, I really miss getting the 2nd degree burns on my arms. (whistle) (laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanz Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 what size of tank is it on vanz? That is the exact fixture im looking at getting. how high off the water does the light sit? I was also looking at the nova extreme fixture from current but it has one big reflector instead of individual. but if its all softies in my tank and no sps then it should be ok. 29g and it sits currently at ~6" above the water line. Everything opens with the light. I have softies and LPS only right now though. I don't think I'll be getting any SPS except for monti caps. Non of the softies ever shied away from the light even when it was like a couple of inches off the water. All the softies are in the open, but they are mostly at the bottom of the tank. I believe the height of the 29 is 18". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Mike i know you want to come over to the T5 side! Maybe when I hook a frag tank to the system.........but never for the display tank, I love the shimmer lines MHs give off. I have never seen a T5 tank do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Would be good on a frag tank for sure. I miss the shimmer lines, but thats fading fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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