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Mbeef61
06-13-2006, 06:31 PM
im moving into an apartment and im converting my 135 glass sps reef to a 100 gallon acrylic. right now the 135 (72x18x24) uses 2 hang on the back overflows...and a mag 12 for sump to tank flow.
the tank im getting is 100 gallon acrylic (60x18x20.5). im not that familiar with drilling tanks but i know the basic concepts. what i want to know is where to drill the holes for the overflows and how many...and what size? i would prefer to use the mag 12 or some external comparable for sump to tank movement. also, i want to incorporate a closed loop...maybe with a sequence dart? does that sound about right? where should i drill this plumbing?
any help or suggestions would be great. also diagrams are aweome...thanks in advance.

oh also ...the sump is a 33 gallon aga (48x12x13)?

Michael7979
06-13-2006, 08:49 PM
Upscales and Waves can drill tanks and surely can help you work thru your questions.

reefgeek84
06-13-2006, 08:56 PM
Drilling acrylic is easy! Take it slow and use a decent hole saw.

nu2reef-n
06-13-2006, 09:34 PM
Back up your drill or hole saw with a piece of wood.
You don't want to crack the tank.
Don't forget.......go slow.

Chief
06-13-2006, 09:51 PM
Here is a pic of the diagram I used for my 8 foot 240 gallon tank.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/spayne377/240Reef/ClosedLoop.jpg

Drilling bulkheads are easy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/spayne377/240Reef/DSCN3973.jpg

Let me know if you have any questions. This was my first time drilling acrylic. I didn't have any problems. Just go slow. Clean your hole saw as it gets clogged with acrylic shavings. Drill halfway through, and switch sides. This will reduce the possibility of a crack when completing the cut/hole. If I can do it, anybody can.

Jay

andy
06-13-2006, 09:52 PM
Buy a sheet or two of acrylic at home depot to practice on...

Mbeef61
06-14-2006, 02:30 PM
thanks for the help so far...another question/concern i have is with the design of the overflow inside the tank...i think i wanna drill the overflows towards the top...what do you all use to cover those? i know some people just use a screen over them...but i would more like some sort of prefilter box like the ones i have for my glass tank now...even better would be some sort of adjustable one to fluctuate water lines...any suggestions?

impur
06-14-2006, 02:42 PM
I don't think you will need adjustable ones. You could make a overflow box or just use those screw in screens. Its up to you. Both would work fine.

andy
06-14-2006, 03:18 PM
One nice thing about internal overflow boxes is they allow you to use Durso-style standpipes to help cut the noise.

Chief
06-14-2006, 04:03 PM
I have internal screens on my overflows.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/spayne377/240Reef/DSCN3978.jpg

What I really wanted was a coast to coast overflow. The internal screens are kind of a bother. I have had to clean them about every week, but that was due to a hair algea problem. The hair algea is almost gone, so we will see how long it is between cleanings now. Coraline will also plug the holes in the screens, but a vinegar bath with fix that.

Jay

impur
06-14-2006, 04:32 PM
Yah coast to coast overflows are nice.

Mbeef61
06-14-2006, 06:15 PM
not familar with what that is but from what i take it from the name its an over flow that goes all the way across the tank? any pics or links to this style? i like how the durso style standpipe usually never fail...but i hate how it takes up aquascaping space...as for the screens that was my first thought when thinking of ideas...the complaint i have heard most is they clog...however i dont have anything to clog it up...i almost wish i could have some hair algae to feed the tang! lol just kidding...coraline however i do think could have an affect...but like you said VINEGAR!

do you have any links to those coast to coast style?
wheres best to get those screens if i go that way? LFS or online?

also....would 2-1.5'' intakes t-ed into a 2 inch pipe be better for the sequence dart than just 1-2'' intake? to kind of spread the suction out
? also...for those with darts? whats best for returns on a 60'' tank? 3 or 4? im thinkin maybe 2 sea swirls if i can afford.

Mbeef61
06-14-2006, 06:16 PM
nice tank chief...i would love to see more pics

Chief
06-14-2006, 06:37 PM
not familar with what that is but from what i take it from the name its an over flow that goes all the way across the tank? any pics or links to this style?

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72409&highlight=coast+overflow


wheres best to get those screens if i go that way? LFS or online?

Portland stores Waves, and Upscales I believe

Salem store Advanced Aquarium

Eugene store Liquid Sunshine


also....would 2-1.5'' intakes t-ed into a 2 inch pipe be better for the sequence dart than just 1-2'' intake? to kind of spread the suction out?

2 intakes - more room for error


also...for those with darts? whats best for returns on a 60'' tank? 3 or 4? im thinkin maybe 2 sea swirls if i can afford.

I would think 4. I don't know how much sea swirls are but you might look into an Oceans Motions 4-way.

http://www.oceansmotions.com


Jay