Dowflake?

[reefgeek84]

Does anyone know somewhere local that carries dowflake? I am starting to look into doing the DIY calcium and alk at home mix, and I am trying to locate all the things I will need to do it local.

If anyone can help that would be great.

[Reefin']

good luck.... usually homedepot carries something equivalent.....(prestone) during the winter months....but this winter they had something else.i think used a blend of chemicals. something like potassium chloride instead of calcium chloride... no good

[Reefin']

i think i heard that dry z air is the same just repackaged into smaller amounts......here is the site where u can buy it......

http://www.drytheair.com/xcart/store/catalog/category_257_DriZAir_Bulk_Purchases_page_1.html

and MSDS ...u might want to read on RC to see if its safe for sure...HTH

RAINIER PRECISION
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET


1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT & COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

PRODUCT: DRI-Z-AIR (R)
{PELADOW (R^) PREMIER SNOW AND ICE MELTER CALCIUM CHLORIDE PELLETS}
PRODUCT CODE: DW79537
MSDS NUMBER: RP091504
RP2000, LLC
RAINIER PRECISION
P.O. BOX 77610, SEATTLE, WA 98177-0610
13500 LINDEN AVE NORTH, SEATTLE, WA 98133
PHONE (206) 624-8258 OR (800) 270-5220
FAX (206) 621-7180
__________________________________________________ _____________________

EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE

FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE INVOLVING CHEMICALS CALL
CHEMTREC (800) 424-9300
CHEMTREC INTERNATIONAL (703) 527-3887
__________________________________________________ ________________________


2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

CALCIUM CHLORIDE CAS# 010043-52-4 90-92%
SODIUM CHLORIDE CAS# 007647-14-5 1- 2%
POTASSIUM CHLORIDE CAS# 007447-40-7 2- 3%
WATER CAS# 007732-18-5

3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION

EMERGENCY OVERVIEW
WHITE TO OFF-WHITE SOLID PELLETS. ODORLESS. CAUSES EYE IRRITATION
MAY CAUSE SKIN IRRITATION

POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS (SEE SECTION 11 FOR TOXICOLOGICAL DATA.)

EYE: PELLETS MAY CAUSE SLIGHT EYE IRRITATION. DUSTS MAY CAUSE SEVERE IRRITATION WITH CORNEAL INJURY. EFFECTS MAY BE SLOW TO HEAL. WHEN DISSOLVING, THE HEAT
PRODUCED MAY CAUSE MORE INTENSE EFFECTS AS WELL AS THERMAL BURNS.

SKIN: SHORT SINGLE EXPOSURE NOT LIKELY TO CAUSE SIGNIFICANT SKIN IRRITATION. PROLONGED OR REPEATED EXPOSURE MAY CAUSE SKIN IRRITATION, EVEN A BURN.
MAY CAUSE MORE SEVERE RESPONSE IF SKIN IS DAMP OR IF MATERIAL IS CONFINED TO SKIN.
MAY CAUSE MORE SEVERE RESPONSE IF SKIN IS ABRADED (SCRATCHED OR CUT). WHEN
DISSOLVING, THE HEAT PRODUCED MAY CAUSE MORE INTENSE EFFECTS AS WELL AS
THERMAL BURNS. NOT CLASSIFIED AS CORROSIVE ACCORDING TO DOT. A SINGLE
PROLONGED EXPOSURE IS NOT LIKELY TO RESULT IN THE MATERIAL BEING ABSORBED
THROUGH SKIN IN HARMFUL AMOUNTS.


INGESTION: SINGLE DOSE ORAL TOXICITY IS CONSIDERED TO BE LOW. SMALL AMOUNTS SWALLOWED INCIDENTAL TO NORMAL HANDLING OPERATIONS ARE NOT LIKELY TO CAUSE INJURY; SWALLOWING AMOUNTS LARGER THAN THAT MAY CAUSE INJURY.
INGESTION MAY CAUSE GASTROINTESTINAL IRRITATION OR ULCERATION.

INHALATION: VAPORS ARE UNLIKELY DUE TO PHYSICAL PROPERTIES. DUST MAY CAUSE
IRRITATION TO UPPER RESPIRATORY TRACT.

SYSTEMIC (OTHER TARGET ORGAN) EFFECTS: FOR POTASSIUM CHLORIDE:
IN ANIMALS, EFFECTS HAVE BEEN REPORTED ON THE FOLLOWING ORGANS
FOLLOWING INGESTION: GASTROINTESTINAL TRACT, HEART, KIDNEY.
DOSE LEVELS PRODUCING THESE EFFECTS WERE MANY TIMES HIGHER

[reefgeek84]

Thank you...See this whole DIY 2 part calcium thing is just too much work when I can buy everything i need for like 15 bucks from an internet company.

[impur]

I had looked into getting Dowflake or Peladow from my parents, they own an ACE hardware, at wholesale prices. But it comes in 90lbs bags and you gotta buy like full pallets. Thats more than we could get rid of i think.

[reefgeek84]

I had looked into getting Dowflake or Peladow from my parents, they own an ACE hardware, at wholesale prices. But it comes in 90lbs bags and you gotta buy like full pallets. Thats more than we could get rid of i think.
Yeah, its a good DIY, but you need to have the stuff and that makes it really hard..So I think I am going to go with baking soda for PH and pickling lime and then buy Seachem's calcium carbonate and it will be easier that way.

[impur]

Yah, thats what i use. You can bake the baking soda on a cookie sheet to get washing soda if the baking soda drops your pH too much.

[Reefin']

why not just buy washing soda?

[impur]

Baking soda is approved for human consumption. Washing soda is not. Just best not to risk using the washing soda IMO, never know what might have been mixed in.

[reefgeek84]

Baking soda is approved for human consumption. Washing soda is not. Just best not to risk using the washing soda IMO, never know what might have been mixed in.
good piont

[R2R2]

We have a 97% Calcium crystal available. Also a 98% Mg. Call and ask. Ryan