Ya gotta love flatworm eggs

[reefnjunkie]

Well flatworms are easier to get rid of when they are on the acro, you just dip the acro.
But then they have their eggs all over the base, well you gao from this;

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/Byrdman503/tri2-1.jpg



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http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/Byrdman503/IMG_2932.jpg

all egg free-(clap)

I may have some "flat worm free" frags for sale-these are about 4" tall;
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/Byrdman503/IMG_2931.jpg

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[Emerald525]

Beautiful former colony Brad. What was the name of it? Tyree Limited edition spotted acro?

[reefnjunkie]

Its a ORA Tri color-it almost was gonna be the ORA Ultra Exotic Snow White Acro

Good news, I have some montser frags that once I know all is good I'll trade or sell-got to have at least 150.00 in frags

[Emerald525]

Its a ORA Tri color-it almost was gonna be the ORA Ultra Exotic Snow White Acro

Good news, I have some montser frags that once I know all is good I'll trade or sell-got to have at least 150.00 in frags

I would be interested in trading of buying an ORA tricolor minus the freebie flatworm eggs (clap)

[pantherguy30]

Sign me up for a frag Brad. I noticed my first frag from you got knocked loose and down into the rocks where I couldnt save it awhile back:( Especialy since I'm going to single ended radiums this weekend. That tri color will look sick:)

[reefnjunkie]

I would be interested in trading of buying an ORA tricolor minus the freebie flatworm eggs (clap)

There are no eggs, they get laid around the base of what is dead, I threw away a rather large skeleton.

Thats why I have so many frags, you have to cut above into the live coral to be sure you dont get any eggs, I had to frag my ORA purple nana, when you go to Tims BBQ you can see the half he got, the colony was a little larger that a tennis ball. Its sort of a drag when you grow these things from a 1" frag (laugh)

Will do David, but like I said I want to be sure they are going to be pest free-

I would bet there are quite a few people around here that have flat worms and dont even know (sad) I have gotten frags from folks that I dip and they come shooting of it.

dip
dip
dip
thats all I can say-I got lazy thinking a 1" frag I could see pest

WRONG

[pantherguy30]

Mr Malanurus wrasse likes them:-) I got one to take care of my population I received by not dipping my corals:-(

[Gill]

(kneel) Brad, you are the colony King!!! (kneel)

[nhowe]

There are no eggs, they get laid around the base of what is dead, I threw away a rather large skeleton.

Thats why I have so many frags, you have to cut above into the live coral to be sure you dont get any eggs, I had to frag my ORA purple nana, when you go to Tims BBQ you can see the half he got, the colony was a little larger that a tennis ball. Its sort of a drag when you grow these things from a 1" frag (laugh)

Will do David, but like I said I want to be sure they are going to be pest free-

I would bet there are quite a few people around here that have flat worms and dont even know (sad) I have gotten frags from folks that I dip and they come shooting of it.

dip
dip
dip
thats all I can say-I got lazy thinking a 1" frag I could see pest

WRONG

Glad to see that everybody is cautious about not wanting to spread flatworms. But to me it seems like playing with fire by trading frags out of a tank that is already known to have flatworms. Any frag acro or non acro out of the tank may have flatworms. If somebody isn't careful and doesn't dip, gets flatworms in their tank, then trades frags to other people. Seems like it could cause a mess of flatworm herpes.

[Gill]

Glad to see that everybody is cautious about not wanting to spread flatworms. But to me it seems like playing with fire by trading frags out of a tank that is already known to have flatworms. Any frag acro or non acro out of the tank may have flatworms. If somebody isn't careful and doesn't dip, gets flatworms in their tank, then trades frags to other people. Seems like it could cause a mess of flatworm herpes.

A lot of the LFSs have flatworms and they don't take this kind of care to prevent the spread.

[nhowe]

A lot of the LFSs have flatworms and they don't take this kind of care to prevent the spread.

Dude, where are you shopping? Not trying to make anybody mad here. I would have to disagree that shops don't take care in preventing parasites. Every coral I've seen brought in for trade or donation at LFS get dipped. Most LFS that I've been in take extreme care not to get flatworms or any parasite for that matter. Flatworms in a display tank or frag tanks would be a disaster.

[pantherguy30]

Are these the same type of flatworms that are rectangular shaped and brown in color? Or is this another type?

[Gill]

Dude, where are you shopping? Not trying to make anybody mad here. I would have to disagree that shops don't take care in preventing parasites. Every coral I've seen brought in for trade or donation at LFS get dipped. Most LFS that I've been in take extreme care not to get flatworms or any parasite for that matter. Flatworms in a display tank or frag tanks would be a disaster.


You would be surprised, I'm not going to name names but I would say 80% of the major LFS stores in the PDX area have had flatworms at one time. Many if not all LFS have some of the following as well: aptasia, Asterina starfish, bubble algae, Majanos and hair algae. If you look long enough you are bound to find some of these in any LFSs tanks.

[reefnjunkie]

Glad to see that everybody is cautious about not wanting to spread flatworms. But to me it seems like playing with fire by trading frags out of a tank that is already known to have flatworms. Any frag acro or non acro out of the tank may have flatworms. If somebody isn't careful and doesn't dip, gets flatworms in their tank, then trades frags to other people. Seems like it could cause a mess of flatworm herpes.

So the convese is trading out of a tank that does not have flat worms and I would agree, a problem is I have gotten frags from local folks that had no idea they even had flat worms- The flat worms themselves are not a problem, they are easy to kill, its the egss that you can not get rid of without cutting the acro, unless you have a wrasse that will eat them as they hatch

Thats why I caution people to do as they really shouldbe doing anyway and thats dip everything religously-I say I dipped 90% of my corals, especially anything of size, I did not think I could miss a parasite like a flat worm with the naked eye on a 1" frag-that was until I realized I had a croal that had them so I decided from here on out I dip everything (again, like you should be doing anyway). Well I picked up small frag from a local reefer and with my "new practice" I dipped it, well 5 flatworms came out from that 1+ inch frag-

Heck alot of you have gotten frags from that same tank- ((laugh) hope you dip) and dont bother asking who I am talking about because it does not matter-what matters is to learn by my mistake and not make the same for yourself.

I did get a melanurus and yellow corris today (clap)

and on the brighter side, I will be tearing my tank down soon and can dip and inspect for eggs before going into the new tank.

I think it was Emerald that called them "RTTD"s or "RTD"s

reeftank transmitted disease- (laugh)

"RTD's its the gift that keeps on giving"(nono)

[reefnjunkie]

Are these the same type of flatworms that are rectangular shaped and brown in color? Or is this another type?

yes but mine were whitish, not the brown red type.

And I agree with Gill there are LFS that have FW-all the more reason to dip as you should

[pantherguy30]

I know I have the brown ones, and like I said in the display the wrasse takes care of them. You can also utilize a few velvet nudibrachs to control the brown ones:-) they look schweet and that's their diet:-) dunno much about the white ones?? But as far as the brown ones, unless your tank is completly infested with them. It's really not that big of a deal IMO just means you have a ton of excess nutrients in the tank to keep them alive, and thriving. And I agree with each individual reefer should be responsible for what they put into their own tanks. Sometimes the shops may not know what's on them. So if you put it in your display without dipping or quarantining than your playing with fire IMO:-)

[Bigjohnwoody]

Well I am the lucky owner on aefw's as well. I found them all over my Garf purple bonsai today. I dipped it cause it looked like crap. I could see no eggs or flatworms but quite a few of the clear white flat worms came off it. I ended up dipping about 3/4 of my tank, and never saw any other sign of it. So I'm praying to God they are Garf purple bonsai eating flatworms and that's it. I am gonna dip again in three days. Then again three days after that and then wait, pray, and see. I dipped all my new additions religiously and then got lazy, and stopped. So 100% my fault and blame no one. Lesson learned.

[Mandinga]

What are u guys dipping with?
Aefw seem to be relatively resistant to most dips on the market....


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[Mandinga]

Heck alot of you have gotten frags from that same tank- ((laugh) hope you dip) and dont bother asking who I am talking about because it does not matter-what matters is to learn by my mistake and not make the same for yourself.

)

It's like a game of Clue. Colonel Mustard did it, in the lobby with a candlestick.



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[bill]

AEFW only house on tricolor and mille, it's very hard to see it when they just eggs and it normally won't bother other acros like deep water and stag and there is always a cure if you keep your eyes on it, having six line four line and melunarus wrasse and lots of flow will keep them off your acros

[Bigjohnwoody]

I have been doing some research and found a really interesting treatment option. There is definitely some risk in it, but it can be used for in tank treatment of aefw. I am really hoping I don't have to do this. I am gonna be hopping for the best and preparing for the worst. Isaac I am currently using Coral Rx to dip with, and from what I have read it seems to be a good choice. Hereis the link if anyone is interested.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2027706

[coralreefer]

so THAT'S where I got my flatworms from....LOL

DrMerle

[reefnjunkie]

so THAT'S where I got my flatworms from....LOL

DrMerle


Now now, if thats direcetd in my tanks direction (laugh) I noticed an acro not looking well about 3 months and this was after the tank move-so yu are good and I think you are only kidding, but if not....... it was a test to see if you dipped-shame shame (J/K of course)
I have it narrowed down to one of two trades/purchases unless they come dormant on farmed dry what was once living rock that went through a 3 week bleach soaking (scratch)


What are u guys dipping with?
Aefw seem to be relatively resistant to most dips on the market....


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CoralRx has been what I have been using

[coralreefer]

only joking Brad...

DrMerle

[impur]

I had these a few years ago, they are the main reason i have a QT tank/procedure. They love valida, that is the first one they go for if its available. Both TMPCC and Revive do a great job of killing them, but you gotta deal with the eggs still.

[barrierreefcf]

AEFW only house on tricolor and mille, it's very hard to see it when they just eggs and it normally won't bother other acros like deep water and stag and there is always a cure if you keep your eyes on it, having six line four line and melunarus wrasse and lots of flow will keep them off your acros

Sorry, this statement is flat out false. They will take up residence and snack on most Acropora. About a month ago I helped a gentleman dip at his house. He had them on Torts, Millepora, Formosa, SSC, Echinata, Purple Monster, Green Slimer, Red Planet, Tenuis, Pulchra, and half a dozen other species. They are commonly coming in on Australian Acropora species from most of the major wholesalers. I have been down there and seen them. Most of these wholesalers are quarantining, dipping, and cutting off bases where eggs are more likely to be hidden but some are not. Even with these precautions they are slipping through. Dip dip dip and quarantine after that. We use CoralRx at our shop but be careful...Echinata and other smoothe branched Acropora don't like to be dipped in it. On a side note Pocillopora, stylophora, and seriatopora are sensitive to CoralRx as well. Shorten your dip times and reduce the concentration when dealing with corals from these Genera.

[reefnjunkie]

Sorry, this statement is flat out false. They will take up residence and snack on most Acropora. About a month ago I helped a gentleman dip at his house. He had them on Torts, Millepora, Formosa, SSC, Echinata, Purple Monster, Green Slimer, Red Planet, Tenuis, Pulchra, and half a dozen other species. They are commonly coming in on Australian Acropora species from most of the major wholesalers. I have been down there and seen them. Most of these wholesalers are quarantining, dipping, and cutting off bases where eggs are more likely to be hidden but some are not. Even with these precautions they are slipping through. Dip dip dip and quarantine after that. We use CoralRx at our shop but be careful...Echinata and other smoothe branched Acropora don't like to be dipped in it. On a side note Pocillopora, stylophora, and seriatopora are sensitive to CoralRx as well. Shorten your dip times and reduce the concentration when dealing with corals from these Genera.


Good to know-Thanks for this!